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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:42 pm

I like the Tiger as well
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:01 pm

Just let me know how to do it(Never made a site Before).
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:29 am

I already made it. I'll do a few things and then give you the admin account and new email address i made for the admin.

http://grassturismo.forumotion.com/
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:39 am

Sweet thanks Tiger!
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:06 pm

I'm gonna Go-ahead and sign up for the site
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:25 pm

That's cool. It'll be a few days before my part is done. You should go through GT6, see what the upgrade categories are, and start coming up with your pricing for parts and paintwork, and then come up with a weekly pay amount and starting cash amount.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:36 pm

I was looking early when i got the game at some of the car prices and like a base Sileighty is 22 thousand dollars holy shit
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:39 pm

But then like a triple plate clutch is a few thousand lol
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:58 pm

Of the other people who have this game be willing to help me out with sorting prices and such?
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:17 pm

ill help go over pricing on things. was trying to think how cars would be classified, or if we should even do different tiers of pricing. A lot of things I think we could use in game pricing but then some of the others are ridiculously expensive like you said. And with car pricing, a lot of the asian cars are cheap, then all the euros are pricier for the same types of cars. Just an example.

I did ask a few weeks ago on the team xenon thread on gtplanet if they would want to join, they don't sound interested in a bnb/mnm type thing for GT6.

Stuff like new rims, new paintjob could just be in game pricing. I cant remember but I think rim paint was the same cost as car paint in game, if that is the case I would make that 10% of the in game cost, just drop the last digit and that is your price.

I know the comfort tires are cheap, but then some of the sport and race tires are ridiculous.

this is just all off the top of my head, ill look more at prices tonight and see if I have any ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:40 pm

Ya, its either really cheap or super expensive

Sileighty-22K
Nitrous-100K
Race Springs basically- 17.5K

wtf
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:45 pm

Using in game pricing doesn't look like a viable option. What I'm going to need from you guys is a list of all the parts you can buy and what levels of them you can buy. Like on Forza for example, you buy an Air Filter, and you can choose Street, Sport, Race. That is the info I need to put together a structured price sheet. Also info like are motor swaps available and such.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:53 pm

No motorswaps sadly, i'll get the levels and parts in abit , unless RatRO beats me to it
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:00 pm

haha. You can check to make sure I didnt miss anything...off the top of my head..

Racing Soft Suspension
Racing Hard Suspension
Customizable Suspension

Racing Brakes

Comfort Tires - Hard, Medium, and Soft
Sport Tires - Hard, Medium, and Soft
Race Tires - Hard, Medium, and Soft
Dirt Tires
Ice Tires (I think)
Wet Tires (2 stages - Hybrid dry/wet tire, Wet tire)

Close Ratio 5 Speed Trans
Close Ratio 6 Speed Trans
Customizable Trans

Twin Plate Clutch Kit
Triple Plate Clutch Kit

Carbon Driveshaft
Customizable Differential

Weight Reduction Stage 1-3
Lightweight Windows
Carbon Hood - raw and painted

Air Intake
Exhaust, basically Street, Sport, and Race
Header
High Flow Catalytic Converter
Race Computer

Stage 1-3 Engine Tuning (this is a comprehensive engine upgrade package, i can add more detail later)
Stage 1-3 Turbo (comprehensive turbo upgrade packages)
Supercharger Kit
Nitrous

Paint
Body and Wheels in...
-Matte
-Gloss
-Metallic
-Pearlescent
-Color Shift
-Chrome

Wheels.
Oem Diameter, +1, and +2 sizes. No width adjustment. Prices in game for all these are in the $1-$3k range, I suggest in game pricing for wheels.

Oh yeah, AERO
Sold as a full bodykit. Some are full kits, some are just front bumper and sideskirts, some are just a front lip. So it varies depending on car but it is sold all as one.
Wings are separate
Flat Floor/Diffuser is separate
There is an additional mods category but I have not upgraded a car that has anything here.


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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:05 pm

That's everything except for color-shift paint.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:07 pm

When we get everything in stone, i think i'll try to get a Boss 302 as on of my cars. I built one a took picture's of it and OMG
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:08 pm

thanks, added, i have already edited like 6 times because I kept remembering more things. Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:59 pm

Now that we've got parts, i agree on the price for wheels and paint but we need

-Starting Cash
-Payday
-Pricing on other stuff
-What ever else Tiger needs lol
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:02 pm

Idk prices. I get my game by the end of this week I think
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:16 pm

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haha. You can check to make sure I didnt miss anything...off the top of my head..

Racing Soft Suspension-3200
Racing Hard Suspension-3200
Rally Suspension-3200
Customizable Suspension-17500

Racing Brakes-7000

Comfort Tires - Hard, Medium, and Soft-1K,1.2K,1.4K
Sport Tires - Hard, Medium, and Soft-6.5K,7.5K,9K
Race Tires - Hard, Medium, and Soft-15K,25K,35K
Dirt Tires-3K
Snow Tires-3K
Wet Tires (2 stages - Hybrid dry/wet tire, Wet tire)-20K,25K

Close Ratio 5 Speed Trans-5.6K
Close Ratio 6 Speed Trans-7.8K
Customizable Trans-18K

Twin Plate Clutch Kit-3K
Triple Plate Clutch Kit-6K

Carbon Driveshaft-4K
Customizable Differential-7K

Weight Reduction Stage 1-3/4.5K,14.5K,32K
Lightweight Windows-3K
Carbon Hood - raw and painted-4.5K

Air Intake-4.3K
Exhaust, basically Street, Sport, and Race-1.2K,7K,9.5K
Header-3K
High Flow Catalytic Converter-1K
Race Computer-1.5K

Stage 1-3 Engine Tuning-4.5K,18K,40K
Stage 1-3 Turbo-7K,10.5K,20.5K
Supercharger Kit-Not Sure
Nitrous-100K

Paint
Body and Wheels in...
-Solid-4K
-Matte-Not Sure
-Metallic-5K
-Pearlescent-6K
-Color Shift-8K
-Chrome-Not Sure

Wheels.
Oem Diameter, +1, and +2 sizes. No width adjustment. Prices in game for all these are in the $1-$3k range, I suggest in game pricing for wheels.

Oh yeah, AERO
Sold as a full bodykit. Some are full kits, some are just front bumper and sideskirts, some are just a front lip. So it varies depending on car but it is sold all as one.
Wings are separate
Flat Floor/Diffuser is separate
There is an additional mods category but I have not upgraded a car that has anything here.

I've Edited in what i could with in-game Prices so we can adjust them accordingly
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:10 am

Ill try to come up with pricing suggestions tonight or tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:22 am

Ok. I have been dumping things into some spreadsheets for the past 3 hours or so. Did some price comparisons on cars vs FM5 and FM4 to estimate a starting balance, and used the MNM FM5 parts pricing as sort of a starting point to put prices on the GT6 parts.

I'll propose a starting balance of somewhere in the $30-40k range. Cars in GT6 are more expensive, thats all there is to it. You can get a couple fun ones at 25k or less, but you'll have to leave them unmodified till you hit your first payday. A lot of the cheaper ones are pretty much 100 hp wheels of fury. A lot of the typical MNM type cars (just looking at forza pricing) fall right around $25k-35k range in GT6. A $35k starting price would get you some decent wheels with a couple bucks leftover for parts. Or something like an S2000 with no money leftover. (keep in mind I only compared cars that were in BOTH games. There are a ton more cars I did not even look at in GT6 for pricing) Maybe something like $30k would be enough...make you struggle with that first car to make it into something. Tiger if you have any input I would appreciate it since you have played with the pricing on the Forza side, made the starting cash lower for a reason I presume.

Parts pricing...ill share what I have as a point of discussion. I didnt want things to be too cheap, but  also not prohibitively expensive.

Here's a link to the spreadsheets
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtIepCQ9xtUwdHlVSXZTMWJLNHlEQ1F3NktOZHp4d3c&usp=drive_web#gid=3
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:47 pm

Looks legit to me thanks helping us out. I like that it's pretty similar to it's forza 5 pricing. A good schassis is like 26K lol
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:18 pm

Oops..just noticed I have the original and proposed parts prices switched. I am sure its clear what I adjusted lol.

Yea a lot of good cars are just barely over 25k.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible GT6 section on MnM?   Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:29 pm

That document is the proposed pricing?
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